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Challenge Mode daily quests.. You can bonus roll every time though, so if the 2nd boss has this super awesome item you want you can waste all your rolls on butcher, but there is no possibility of loot outside of the bonus roll after the first kills.

Thanks for this information and explaining it concisely. I learned something new actually, and that was that you can get multiple loots attempts from the same raid each week, by doing it on different difficulties.

I thought that would work exactly like how you explained the Abrogators work. This just confused me even more. Please help a total noob here.

Say I did all 3 LFR raid bosses one night and got two pieces of loot. The very next day I can run the LFR again and have a chance to get gear?

So you can run the LFR as many times as you want, but it would only drop gear once. What about the Abrogator thingies? If I specific queue for everbloom, finish it and then do a random heroic dungeon and get everbloom again, I'll still get loot.

I could do 10 more random heroics and keep getting everbloom and continue to get loot. What I can't do, however, is specific queue for everbloom again because I had already specific queue'd for that one that day.

They have a daily lockout which stops you manually queuing for the same heroic 5man or walking into it with a group, but if you select "random heroic" it is possible to get a group in a dungeon you have done already today.

Edit: You can re-run LFR as many times as you want in a week, but you won't get drops from re-killing the bosses until your first clear the following week.

You only get a chance at loot the first time you kill the boss that week. After that, you can run it again, but you will not get any chance at loot.

Note that these loot lockouts are per boss , so if you join a group that is halfway done, you can re-run LFR to get a fresh run, and you will get a chance at loot for any bosses you didn't kill the first time.

Not exactly connected but do we know how the world bosses work? At first I thought it was one of the two spawning a week and it alternates every week but there are reports that both are spawning each week.

Does that mean you can get loot off both Drov and Tarlna each week? Or can you only get loot off one of those bosses each week?

Drov was never there. I did a pre-made Tarlna group last night, so I don't understand how the world bosses are going to work Killed Drov - some people in group said they didn't get loot from Drov and had already done Tarlna Wednesday!

That's what I read too, then people on WoWhead were saying they had Drov. I killed Tarlna last week So really I have no idea what's going on haha also on US.

I think that only works with other players who are eligible for loot, and since you are marked as ineligible I don't believe so. It remembers a list of who is 'eligible for loot', when you hover over the item it should say who it can be traded to and it won't include people not eligible for loot.

By my calculation I had 12 chances at lot. Sound right? I have been having the same problem. That's not even including LFR.

That's why you should use Master Looter on Normal and Heroic. My guild did Kargath Normal with personal loot and he didn't drop anything for anyone.

So we decided to use Master Looter at least we have guaranteed 4 drops. Is there any difference in drop rate of abrogators for each difficulty?

If there is, the optimal run would be to start on Mythical if it provides better chance of abrogators. I don't think so as that would be incredibly annoying.

Plenty of people killing heroic raid bosses and getting 1s and 2s most of the time. The weird thing is, we skipped Tectus? There were 4 bosses on the map but we killed 3, is it supposed to be like that?

A new wing didn't open yet, so I'm guessing I either need to kill that one boss to open the new wing in LFR or wait until a new wing is unlocked in a few weeks?

Only Kargath, butcher and brackenspore were unlocked this week in LFR. Withing the next two weeks, Tectus, the ogrons and Koragh become available.

And in early january, imperator becomes available on LFR. If you join LFR right now, only these 3 bosses are in the instance and killable. In a normal-mode raid, you can fight either Brackenspore or Tectus 3rd, and Tectus is listed 3rd in the Dungeon Journal, which makes it confusing.

You can fight twin ogron third if you want. My guild did it that way yesterday killed twins and then tectus. I imagine they're doing bracken and such tonight but I couldn't join as I had a choir performance to attend.

I had heard this info about Abrogator's before, however last week we cleared normal first I was there for the loot on all 7 bosses and then did heroic, was still getting Abrogator Stones in heroic.

Let me just say how much I fucking love this. I want to do LFR on my alts, very infrequently. I don't want to ever set foot in LFR on my main.

That's how I burn out, but in MoP I felt like I had to in order to get my lgendary or sha touched weapon.

People who haven't cleared normal-mode will probably want to do all available LFR wings every week. So gear is instanced to each raid, and Abrogator stones are one chance off each boss period.

Good to know. I killed all 3 bosses in LFR highmaul last night and didn't see any abrogator items at all, is that normal?

The quest is available, you need to finish earlier steps first to get it, especially 3x Cores for heroic 5mans, a bunch of apexis crystals, auchendon, then the dragon clues and kieroz challenge.

How does this work with seals, I killed butcher normal rolled got a glove, then went in there with a different group normal and got the roll window again so I went for it and got gold.

Are the seals unlimited or is it broken. The roll window and seals do work on additional attempts. You could even use 10 seals in one week on the same boss if you really, really wanted a particular drop.

Of course it still doesn't guarantee you get the item you want, convincing people to run it with you ilcoukd be tough, and it doesn't work on Mythic.

I don't know about getting stones from the same boss on different difficulty but i can confirm that last week, killed normal twin and no stone drop, couple hours later i killed heroic twin and got stones.

I dunno if it is intended or not.. At least im pretty close to the Currently have 87 :. If you don't have the Abrogator quest, you kill a boss, and then pick up the quest, will you still be able to get stones from that boss if you kill him again that week?

Pretty sure it was like that for similar items in Mists of Pandaria unless you looted a different tyoe of legendary item already , but I haven't read anyone say they've tried that so far in Warlords.

I am seeing plenty of people getting Clusters in LFR and haven't heard stories of people getting significantly more on average in Heroic or Mythic.

I assume that is a point i would use the re-roll items Quit before cata, and this is confusing me all kinds of ways. Also note several people in this thread disagree with me about the Abrogator stones but I'm still confident that's how it works most of the time and how it's supposed to work.

When you say "old school lockout" for mythic, how oldschool do you mean? Does it use the old instance save ID system where if you kill 2 bosses with one group you will only be able to kill the rest of the bosses with the same group for the rest of the lockout.

Or will you be able to kill one boss with one group and then switch group and kill the next boss. If 2 groups have the same lockout, they enter into the same instance when they pass through the portal.

This means that only 20 people are allowed into the instance, regardless of how many groups exist between them. If 10 people from group 1 and 10 people from group 2 enter, nobody else can enter the instance until someone leaves.

I got no loot and the raid was over. Am I able to join LFR again to do the first 2 bosses for loot? What about 10 man LFR or guild 10 man highmaul?

Wow, really? The number of times I just wanted to kill Immerseus for a shot at a legendary cloak drop, and I'd get into a Protectors group every single time because people sucked at that boss.

When I requeued the 2nd time I would only very rarely get an in-progress. You get chances for Abrogator Stones both from work orders and from rare garrison missions.

I usually get at least 2 from work orders a week and at least 2 garrison missions a week that yield 3 each.

So: The total is quite a bit higher than 7 per week, sometimes double or triple that depending on how lucky I get with work orders and quests.

We're talking about running raids, this has nothing to do with missions. You have a shot at raid loot from missions too. Somebody could read "This means no more than 7 chances at Abrogators this week.

I guess, but it gets tiresome seeing the same "corrections" every time people want to discuss these things.

You can't mention the three seals per week without somebody chiming in "no no no no you can get missions that give you more!

Have had work orders being pumped out constantly, with followers in each hut, and haven't gotten a single stone form them. You're right, but I think it's pretty clear I'm talking about the ways to get Abrogator stones in raids.

Also since raids seem to usually drop 1, 2 or Cluster 5 , I think this will be the main source of Stones for most people.

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